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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
		<link>http://thefbomb.org/2009/07/musings-of-a-teenage-feminist/comment-page-1/#comment-442</link>
		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 05:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the word &quot;feminist&quot; needs some rebranding. You can mean the exact same thing, but it sounds nicer, and less culturally loaded kind similar to how creationism became intelligent design.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the word &#8220;feminist&#8221; needs some rebranding. You can mean the exact same thing, but it sounds nicer, and less culturally loaded kind similar to how creationism became intelligent design.</p>
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		<title>By: femi-maybe</title>
		<link>http://thefbomb.org/2009/07/musings-of-a-teenage-feminist/comment-page-1/#comment-433</link>
		<dc:creator>femi-maybe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 01:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am only now starting to call myself a feminist. Why has it taken me so long? Well yes, I guess you could call it my conception of contemporary feminists as something akin to the feminazis you speak of. 

But it&#039;s not nearly as simple as that. I have always had a huge respect for the feminists of yesteryear, the ones who fought for the vote, reproductive rights, equality. My mother calls herself a feminist and 20 odd years ago went on the marches, signed the petitions. I have nothing but respect for those women.

My problem was that I have never experienced any sexism. I&#039;m a from a liberal middle class suburban background in New Zealand - the first country to give women the vote, we&#039;ve had 2 women prime ministers, one for 9 years. The most it&#039;s come to is my art teacher when I was 11 saying &quot;that&#039;s pretty good - for a girl.&quot; And we all knew he was a dick. 

So from my point of view, this feminism that I admired, the fight for equality, was already won. Women were equal to men. Wherever I looked this was the case.

So from this assumption, it follows that none of the contemporary feminists were from the same mold as these bygone feminists whose actions I admired. What&#039;s the point in fighting for something you already have? Thus, these &#039;feminists&#039; must be the kind of fringe radicals - eg.  all acts of heterosexual sex are necessarily rape because the patriachy is so dominant that women aren&#039;t in any sense autonomous, so can&#039;t consent. 

As I considered myself pro-equality (which I thought a redundant belief) I was against the &#039;new&#039; feminism, because I think the kind of radical &#039;feminist&#039; that I characterised is actually undermining women (by painting them as so passive) and is trying to make women better/more than men, thus tipping the scales in the other direction. In fact in my experience women were being prioritised at men&#039;s expense, I thought (and still do in a lot of cases) that the &#039;movement&#039; had gone too far.

Now I am only starting to realise that my experience isn&#039;t necessarily the case, and that sexism is actually out there. If that seems ridiculous to you that I wan&#039;t aware of it, keep in mind that I am from a liberal middle class background - i.e. all the grown up feminists (men and women). 

I was pro-equality, which in my experience had been reached, so I thought the feminism I admired had already won. Thus I resented being called a feminist. 

What&#039;s the point of my blabbering on about this?

If you simply claim that all, or even most, women/girls who don&#039;t identify as feminists do so because they don&#039;t want to be classed as feminazis, you&#039;re oversimplifying the issue hugely.  It&#039;s possible that their reasoning is similar to mine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am only now starting to call myself a feminist. Why has it taken me so long? Well yes, I guess you could call it my conception of contemporary feminists as something akin to the feminazis you speak of. </p>
<p>But it&#8217;s not nearly as simple as that. I have always had a huge respect for the feminists of yesteryear, the ones who fought for the vote, reproductive rights, equality. My mother calls herself a feminist and 20 odd years ago went on the marches, signed the petitions. I have nothing but respect for those women.</p>
<p>My problem was that I have never experienced any sexism. I&#8217;m a from a liberal middle class suburban background in New Zealand &#8211; the first country to give women the vote, we&#8217;ve had 2 women prime ministers, one for 9 years. The most it&#8217;s come to is my art teacher when I was 11 saying &#8220;that&#8217;s pretty good &#8211; for a girl.&#8221; And we all knew he was a dick. </p>
<p>So from my point of view, this feminism that I admired, the fight for equality, was already won. Women were equal to men. Wherever I looked this was the case.</p>
<p>So from this assumption, it follows that none of the contemporary feminists were from the same mold as these bygone feminists whose actions I admired. What&#8217;s the point in fighting for something you already have? Thus, these &#8216;feminists&#8217; must be the kind of fringe radicals &#8211; eg.  all acts of heterosexual sex are necessarily rape because the patriachy is so dominant that women aren&#8217;t in any sense autonomous, so can&#8217;t consent. </p>
<p>As I considered myself pro-equality (which I thought a redundant belief) I was against the &#8216;new&#8217; feminism, because I think the kind of radical &#8216;feminist&#8217; that I characterised is actually undermining women (by painting them as so passive) and is trying to make women better/more than men, thus tipping the scales in the other direction. In fact in my experience women were being prioritised at men&#8217;s expense, I thought (and still do in a lot of cases) that the &#8216;movement&#8217; had gone too far.</p>
<p>Now I am only starting to realise that my experience isn&#8217;t necessarily the case, and that sexism is actually out there. If that seems ridiculous to you that I wan&#8217;t aware of it, keep in mind that I am from a liberal middle class background &#8211; i.e. all the grown up feminists (men and women). </p>
<p>I was pro-equality, which in my experience had been reached, so I thought the feminism I admired had already won. Thus I resented being called a feminist. </p>
<p>What&#8217;s the point of my blabbering on about this?</p>
<p>If you simply claim that all, or even most, women/girls who don&#8217;t identify as feminists do so because they don&#8217;t want to be classed as feminazis, you&#8217;re oversimplifying the issue hugely.  It&#8217;s possible that their reasoning is similar to mine.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexa</title>
		<link>http://thefbomb.org/2009/07/musings-of-a-teenage-feminist/comment-page-1/#comment-431</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 23:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hah. Well, I was reading &#039;The Bell Jar&#039; at school at one point and everyone asked me who the hell Sylvia Plath was. It&#039;s pretty amusing after the first few times you get asked, but after about ten times, it gets annoying. I even wrote a paper on feminism for my english class and my student teacher looked a bit frightened by my strong opinions...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hah. Well, I was reading &#8216;The Bell Jar&#8217; at school at one point and everyone asked me who the hell Sylvia Plath was. It&#8217;s pretty amusing after the first few times you get asked, but after about ten times, it gets annoying. I even wrote a paper on feminism for my english class and my student teacher looked a bit frightened by my strong opinions&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Brenna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brenna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:23:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, being a feminist is something to be proud of.  While I&#039;ve never had a conversation where I&#039;ve said, &quot;I&#039;m a feminist,&quot; I&#039;ve read two of Jessica Valenti&#039;s books at school, and at least one or two girls would ask about the book with obvious interest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, being a feminist is something to be proud of.  While I&#8217;ve never had a conversation where I&#8217;ve said, &#8220;I&#8217;m a feminist,&#8221; I&#8217;ve read two of Jessica Valenti&#8217;s books at school, and at least one or two girls would ask about the book with obvious interest.</p>
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