Feminism, Pop-Culture | Posted by Julie Z on 08/21/2009

The Archie-type

 

They can do better. Just saying.

They can do better. Just saying.

When I was in third or fourth grade, my Dad brought home an Archie comic, with some kind of sentiment like, “These used to be around when I was little!” I vividly remember being confused by phrases such as “yuk yuk” and the concept of Veronica and Betty fighting over someone as seriously lame as Archie. I mean, really? Girls fighting over a guy is ridiculous, but Archie isn’t even a stud muffin.

 

Eventually, I stopped reading them, because in reality Little Women pretty much kicks a comic book’s ass. But, Tuesday’s episode of The Colbert Report, and The Word – Arch Enemies – focusing on the fact that Archie recently proposed to Veronica (who knew they were still making new Archie comics?) — got me thinking about all of the ridiculous elements of Archie comics, that Colbert really nailed. 

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He brings up points such as: 

1) Moose is obviously an abuser. Uncontrollably jealous and controlling of his girlfriend. But obviously THAT SHIT’S FUNNY. Look at him knock over that table because his girlfriend dared to look at someone of the male gender! Oh boy, that Moose! Um…no.

2) Betty and Veronica are the same person. The guys are drawn differently for sure, but no, Betty and Veronica – same drawing with different hair colors. Because, you know, having a singular, idealized body type is surely more important than individuality. 

3) The typical battle between women over one guy. As Colbert put it, “We always define women characters based on which man they can land…if women join forces, become allies, what chance do men have? They outnumber us. They mature earlier. They live longer. And they can birth life.” I guess that would be the fear…let’s preoccupy them with fighting over guys so they never achieve anything! 

And then the true beauty of this segment really set in…

Betty? Is that you?

Betty? Is that you?

“Without Archie to focus on, what would Betty do with herself? Probably something sad like rediscover her own dreams and devote her life to making the world a better place. [Picture of Hillary Clinton]“

Betty could totally be Hillary Clinton. SHE’S CAPABLE.

And just by the way, who was expecting Hillary Clinton to totally add a “that’s right BITCH” after she served that reporter? I know that’s what I said after watching the clip. It turned out to be a misunderstanding, but nevertheless, if that comment had been for real…it would have gone DOWN.

But back on track: Archie Comics. Something about watching that clip made me feel the same way I did after I realized Disney is often sexist. The sort of, “awww there goes my innocence,” reaction. But still. Is it so hard to create a comic book that isn’t sexist and reliant on stereotypes? 

I guess maybe, maybe, we shouldn’t still be reading a comic book that originated in 1941.

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  • Jennifer @ at 7:49 am, August 22nd, 2009

    Erm, ‘lame’? Really? As you identify as a feminist, I’m curious as to whether fighting against ableism comes into your personal philosophy. If you are against it, you might want to consider your use of the word, and possibly any other albeist words that remain in your vocabulary.

  • Erin @ at 12:33 pm, August 22nd, 2009

    I haven’t seen Archie comics, but it’s no shock that a comic named after a guy, probably written by guys and read by guys, treats Betty and Veronica as the same person who is defined only as an accessory to a guy. We need more of our own comics. And by the way, Go Hillary!!! :)

  • Lolita Hazed @ at 5:22 pm, August 23rd, 2009

    Bang-on article.

  • Lolita Hazed @ at 5:23 pm, August 23rd, 2009

    Oh, and ever seen the episode of Mad Men where they say that every woman is either a Jackie or a Marilyn? It’ like that in Betty and Veronica. You’re one or the other.

  • jess @ at 3:11 pm, August 27th, 2009

    Betty = Hillary Clinton

    Veronica = Sarah Palin (think about it)

    Archie = George W. Bush (well, duh!)
    I’m a 19 year old student and yes, Archie comics still exists and I have a love-hate relationship with it. Archie comics has been considered good clean wholesome fun, but I think some of it panders to the male eye when they show the girls in bras (!!), bikinis, and skirts. Would be neat if Betty and Veronica would go out with each other, at least me and Kent Jones think so….I do find myself as a Betty, since I have a crush on Jessica Valenti and I’m brokenhearted that she’s engaged…Well, I don’t know her and I live in Cali.

  • dare2believe @ at 3:19 pm, September 16th, 2009

    Totally agree.

  • toongrrl (formerly jess) @ at 1:49 pm, September 21st, 2009

    What if Betty, Veronica, and Jughead started their own alternative lifestyles commune

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