Pop-Culture | Posted by Julie Z on 09/21/2009

TaySwift v. Kanye

So, I didn’t actually see the epic show down between Kanye and Taylor Swift. The VMA’s aren’t really my thing. But you better believe I youtubed it as soon as humanly possible and came up with this:

And I get that everybody was pissed off on behalf of Taylor Swift. I mean, what a terrible situation. There you are, thinking this is a great moment in your career, and then this asshole comes on stage and not only insults you, but leaves you in front of an audience of millions, just standing there. I mean What. The. Hell. Kanye, that sucks. 

But I mean, Kanye has proven that he’s a jerk before. Remember in 2006 at the EMAs when his ‘Touch the Sky’ video lost Best Video? He crashed the stage during the winners’ acceptance speech as well, and told people that his video “cost a million dollars” and “had Pam Anderson” in it, so it deserved to win. The video of that lovely moment’s right here. (fast forward to about 1:06).

And that’s when I started to wonder. Is this Kanye being an egotistical jerk again? Or does this have deeper implications about gender? 

I really liked Jessica Hopper’s take on this whole situation. As she put it, this is another instance of: 

That guy who pops up and unsolicited, tells you YOU ARE DOING IT WRONG, MISSY. I have seen it happen at shows–some other bands manager or sound guy or another guy in a band will–not even knowing your band’s situation, values, training–pummel you with advice and an opinion about the right way to do what you are doing.

I do think that at the very least, what Kanye did was douchebaggery at its finest. But beyond the basic asshole behavior, I think it was a masculine, egotistical thing. Of course there are women like this too, who like to tell you what to do and how to do it. But I think more often than not guys have that inherent reassurance that their opinion is correct, and that you obviously want them to impart their pearls of wisdom. Girls definitely doubt their opinions more. At least enough to NOT share our opinion on what JUST happened with millions of people at a completely inappropriate time, humiliating someone who in reality had no control over what happened. No…not many girls would go there, I don’t think. 

So I must admit, I am torn. Did Kanye do this because he is a douchebag influenced by the way society makes it more appropriate for men to share (ahem, force) their opinions on others…or just because he’s a douchebag? Truly a question for the ages.

But then Taylor Swift’s response on The View. Another reason why I seriously like her.

And this is completely unrelated. 
But all together now: 
LADY GAGA: WHAT THE !@#$@#%#$???????

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  • Lanie @ at 12:45 pm, September 21st, 2009

    Yes, what Kanye West did was totally a dick move. But I don’t think it was because he was a man, and I feel it’s sexist against men for us to assume so.

    Sure, men can sometimes use their sex to put women below them, but Kanye West saying that Beyonce’s video topped Taylor’s was just inconsiderate. The fact that Taylor was a woman had nothing to do with it. It was one artist disrespecting another artist; sex was not mentioned or implied.

    By the way, I wouldn’t assume that a woman couldn’t have done the same thing to Taylor. I’m sure there has been a woman who has protested her loss in public in the past. Kanye West is just a douchebag as a person.

  • toongrrl @ at 12:47 pm, September 21st, 2009

    Poor Taylor.

  • K8 AH @ at 1:49 pm, September 21st, 2009

    WTF all the way around! Like you, the VMA’s are not really my thing which as a musician, I guess I probably should not say… But oh well. Um also I think when I was like 3 years old, I changed my clothes as often as Lady GaGa. Drove my mom nuts!

  • K8 AH @ at 1:53 pm, September 21st, 2009

    Oh and to answer the question posed… I don’t really think Kanye was performing a sexist outburst so much as just plain egotistical asshole outburst. Though, I am not sure he would have had the balls to do that to someone he considered an “equal”. Which brings me to the question, who exactly would Kanye consider an equal?

  • Zoe @ at 3:13 pm, September 21st, 2009

    I really don’t think Kanye was being sexist. He’s just always been an egotistical person. I really like his music, yes, but man does he get himself into trouble with that mouth, Mr. Voice-of-our-generation. Sheesh. Plus, I heard he was drinking a little hard during the VMA’s so that may have contributed.

    I love Lady Gaga. She changed her clothes sooo much. If anything, I think the reaction to her was more sexist than anything. Everyone on my Facebook was like “Wtf, Lady Gaga is a man, she’s disgusting, etc.” just because she was a little more outrageous than everyone else. Assholes.

  • Amy CT @ at 3:58 pm, September 21st, 2009

    Damn, I can’t see the video of Taylor on The Wire because I’m British… O.o Stoopid YouTube.

    But yeah; I’m on her side, wholeheartedly.

    I don’t think Kanye was being sexist, though. I think he was just being a (INSERT EXPLETIVE OF CHOICE)…

  • Issy @ at 4:12 pm, September 22nd, 2009

    I don’t think it was sexist at all. Asshole is asshole. My first impulse was that is was either staged or encouraged by the VMA’s because really, who gives half a shit about the VMAs. Kayne’s biggest mistake was thinking that getting a VMA actually mattered enough to get worked up about

  • Thalia @ at 10:32 pm, September 26th, 2009

    But it was very mature of Beyonce to bring Taylor onstage, and she looked quite embarrassed on Taylor’s behalf.

    And if it had been me, I certainly would of told him off or something. I’m so happy that she didn’t do that.

  • melissa @ at 2:14 am, October 9th, 2009

    first of all, have you seen both of the videos?

    taylor swifts video was about an awkward girl, suddenly becoming pretty and getting the boy of her dreams, and hating on a pretty girl. typical. feeding into the low self esteem of teenage girls. the lyrics in it, comparing herself to another girl who is different than her – slutty, superfical, a “nag” – stating that SHE would be a better match with the boy. TYPICAL women hating women.

    beyonces video was showcasing her strength. the lyrics in her song were about her own empowerment after a bad relationship.

    now, I’m not saying kanye was right for doing what he did, but if we are talking about who should win as a better representative for women, taylor or beyonce, you HAVE to agree, that beyonce deserved it hands down. Now if he had articulated THAT pov we would all be sitting here calling HIM a feminist.

  • KS @ at 11:46 am, October 13th, 2009

    Maybe it’s because I find Taylor Swift to lack any form of talent… I thought it was funny.. but yes, Kanye is a dick.

  • Sam @ at 2:08 am, November 12th, 2009

    @melissa good point. I also can’t help but think there’s a racial element to this.

    This is an good post on Taylor Swift http://bitchmagazine.org/post/taylor-swift-wants-to-ban-access-to-your-lady-bits

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